{"id":638,"date":"2016-05-11T22:38:01","date_gmt":"2016-05-11T22:38:01","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/int03.co.uk\/blog\/?p=638"},"modified":"2019-02-11T21:34:49","modified_gmt":"2019-02-11T21:34:49","slug":"gaggia-classic-boiler-step-response-lag-and-temperature-drop-rate","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/int03.co.uk\/blog\/2016\/05\/11\/gaggia-classic-boiler-step-response-lag-and-temperature-drop-rate\/","title":{"rendered":"Gaggia Classic Boiler: step response, lag and temperature drop rate"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Partly for my own notes, here are the results of some simple experiments with the Gaggia Classic boiler, to better understand its behaviour. Prior to these tests, the machine started out at ambient&nbsp;temperature of around 21\u00b0C. The temperature sensor is the <a href=\"http:\/\/int03.co.uk\/blog\/2014\/04\/16\/replacing-the-gaggia-classic-coffee-thermostat-with-a-tsic-306\/\" target=\"_blank\">TSIC 306 <\/a>mounted in the same position as the original brew thermostat. There was no portafilter fitted. The tests were carried out on 240V AC mains in the UK, and this is the original Gaggia Classic with an&nbsp;Aluminium boiler.<\/p>\n<p>This first graph shows the temperature (blue line) in \u00b0C versus time in seconds for a step input of heat at full power for 4s. The red line&nbsp;shows the timing of the heat pulse. Note the lag of about 4s before any measurable change in temperature after the element is switched on. In this example, the starting temperature was 21.7\u00b0C, the peak temperature was 29.8\u00b0C and the temperature rise was 8.1\u00b0C.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/int03.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/2016-05-11_gaggia_4s_step.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-640 size-full\" src=\"http:\/\/int03.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/2016-05-11_gaggia_4s_step.png\" alt=\"2016-05-11_gaggia_4s_step\" width=\"600\" height=\"350\" srcset=\"https:\/\/int03.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/2016-05-11_gaggia_4s_step.png 600w, https:\/\/int03.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/2016-05-11_gaggia_4s_step-300x175.png 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>This second graph shows a step input of heat at full power for 8s. Again,&nbsp;there is a lag of about 3s before the temperature changes. Here the starting temperature was 23.2\u00b0C, the peak temperature 39.1\u00b0C and the temperature rise was 15.9\u00b0C. The original data can be&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/int03.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/Boiler-heat-pulse-8s.csv\">downloaded as a CSV file<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone wp-image-639\" src=\"http:\/\/int03.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/2016-05-11_gaggia_8s_step.png\" alt=\"2016-05-11_gaggia_8s_step\" width=\"600\" height=\"393\" srcset=\"https:\/\/int03.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/2016-05-11_gaggia_8s_step.png 610w, https:\/\/int03.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/2016-05-11_gaggia_8s_step-300x197.png 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 600px) 100vw, 600px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>Here&#8217;s a longer sequence, showing the first 35 seconds of the boiler heating up from &#8220;cold&#8221; after the heating elements are first switched on. The heating elements were on for the full duration of the graph below. Again, it takes 4 seconds before the first change in measured temperature. After 12 seconds, the temperature rise becomes almost linear, with a rate of increase of about&nbsp;1.83\u00b0C\/s (straight line fit to a linear subset of the data in Excel). The original data can be&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/int03.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/Temperature-rise-rate-from-23C.csv\">downloaded as a CSV file<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/int03.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/2016-05-11_gaggia_temperature_rise.png\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-653\" src=\"http:\/\/int03.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/2016-05-11_gaggia_temperature_rise.png\" alt=\"2016-05-11_gaggia_temperature_rise\" width=\"630\" height=\"420\" srcset=\"https:\/\/int03.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/2016-05-11_gaggia_temperature_rise.png 630w, https:\/\/int03.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/2016-05-11_gaggia_temperature_rise-300x200.png 300w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 630px) 100vw, 630px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>For the final test, the machine&nbsp;started at about 26.9\u00b0C and was driven up to 93\u00b0C under PID control then allowed to naturally cool down, to see how fast the temperature drops. Again, the data can be&nbsp;<a href=\"http:\/\/int03.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/Temperature-drop-from-93C.csv\">downloaded as a CSV file<\/a>.<\/p>\n<p><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"alignnone size-full wp-image-637\" src=\"http:\/\/int03.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/2016-05-11_gaggia_temperature_drop.png\" alt=\"2016-05-11_gaggia_temperature_drop\" width=\"920\" height=\"660\" srcset=\"https:\/\/int03.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/2016-05-11_gaggia_temperature_drop.png 920w, https:\/\/int03.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/2016-05-11_gaggia_temperature_drop-300x215.png 300w, https:\/\/int03.co.uk\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2016\/05\/2016-05-11_gaggia_temperature_drop-768x551.png 768w\" sizes=\"(max-width: 920px) 100vw, 920px\" \/><\/p>\n<p>The initial temperature drop from 92.9\u00b0C to 90\u00b0C takes 29.25s, which is about 1\u00b0C every 10 seconds (0.099\u00b0C\/s), within the small region between 90\u00b0C and 93\u00b0C where our temperature controller operates.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Partly for my own notes, here are the results of some simple experiments with the Gaggia Classic boiler, to better understand its behaviour. Prior to these tests, the machine started out at ambient&nbsp;temperature of around 21\u00b0C. The temperature sensor is the TSIC 306 mounted in the same position as the original brew thermostat. There was &hellip; <a href=\"https:\/\/int03.co.uk\/blog\/2016\/05\/11\/gaggia-classic-boiler-step-response-lag-and-temperature-drop-rate\/\" class=\"more-link\">Continue reading <span class=\"screen-reader-text\">Gaggia Classic Boiler: step response, lag and temperature drop rate<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[2],"tags":[],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"https:\/\/int03.co.uk\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/638"}],"collection":[{"href":"https:\/\/int03.co.uk\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"https:\/\/int03.co.uk\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/int03.co.uk\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/int03.co.uk\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=638"}],"version-history":[{"count":11,"href":"https:\/\/int03.co.uk\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/638\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":816,"href":"https:\/\/int03.co.uk\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/638\/revisions\/816"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"https:\/\/int03.co.uk\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=638"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/int03.co.uk\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=638"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"https:\/\/int03.co.uk\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=638"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}